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Hey Bob - I haven't used both but I looked over the Jet 16-32 very closely at the local Woodcraft store while I was shopping for a drum sander. It seems like a child's toy compared to the Supermax 19-38. For a few hundred extra dollars you get a much more robust machine. The Supermax is built with thicker cast iron, and even the drum lid is thick sheet metal (the Jet is plastic!), and of course, it's three inches wider. Everything about it is top professional quality.

I know its not as convenient as buying one but you could always get another motor, couple rollers, speed control, and conveyor belt and just rig it up to your existing design.

You know Doug, you can have both...

....and the golf clubs as well!

Alex

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I guess the question now is, what kind of car do you have ?

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Curious about the specs of this sander. How would this be OK for guitar tops wider than 15" and thinner than 1/4"? Are those just recommended specs and one can sand a 16" wide top somehow??

Maximum sanding width 15” (380 mm) / *30” (*IN 2 PASSES)
Minimum sanding thickness 1/4” (6 mm)

Answering my own question - maybe - you use a couple passes for wider stock? The 1/4" must surely be a suggestion only and not a true minimum?

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I've been intrigued by this double roller drum sander. Haven't read/heard anything but looks interesting.

http://www.grizzly.com/products/24-Drum-Sander/G1066R

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If you like doing burn-outs.... with some self-stick 80 on your rear tire you could add the functionality of a drum sander to your bike justifying keeping it. Problem is finding someone in the neighborhood that you dislike enough to talk into holding the wood in place as you do the burn-out....

Seriously lots of great sanders out here. My Performax 10-20 Plus will be 10 years old next year and it has been flawless for me with lots of stuff passed through it over the years. Recently when we unearthed the stash of 50 year old German tops it got a real workout and never misses a beat.

True it requires two passes for joined tops and backs but is not having to do that extra pass worth the price of a single pass sized machine to you? It's also true at least with mine that the feed belt keeps trying to have an affair with the motor but I just let em do what they are going to do anyway and never had any issues still using the original feed belt.

Some years back on the OLF a number of 10 - 20 users upgraded to a bigger sander and then expressed some regret because they thought that the 10 - 20 held tighter tolerances.

For me tools are a means to an end with my real interest being the guitars that I can build or fix. If a tool works for this, what I intend it to do, it's good enough. If it does not do a great job off it goes. Plain and simple.

A sander may be spec'd to 1/4", but u can use a sacrificial board to go thinner. My drum sander will go pretty thin, but I don't like the drum being that close to the conveyor belt, so I lift the piece up with a board.

Mike

So I found a sander...Performax 22-44. $800 in brand new condition. I'd say I did pretty well ... and that would be grossly understated. I just need to find a way to get it as it is a 12 hour drive from home in Northern Alberta.

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Does it have a mobile base?

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Thats a nice find, Doug. Could shipping it be more cost/time effective? I found a shaper on Kijjijji, great condition and price, but it was in Thunder Bay.

Alex

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Ha ha, just tie it to the trailer hitch and you're good to go!

With shipping total cost: $1000. I'm a very happy camper.

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Wish I coulda found a deal like that when I bought my little 10-20. I spent nearly as much as you and mine is tiny.

Last year there was someone in Toronto selling two 22/44's on Kijjijji, both brand new, $900 each.
I was tempted, but I figured at that price they had fallen off the back of a truck, and I don't like that sort of deal.
$1000 delivered is the kind of deal that would let me sleep at night! What Kind of dust collection do you have, Doug? I would think a 2hp unit would do a pretty good job.

Alex

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Alex, I've got a four-bag, 3hp 220v unit. I'm good to go.

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Doug

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Yea I just looked over the Supermax and you are right it is built a lot better than the Jet. The Supermax seemed more like a pro tool where the Jet appears to be for a hobbiest.. I think the extra cash would be well spent.

Here is a blast from the past... I just dug out my scooter from the bowls of the lower garage I am turning into my new shop. I have an interested buyer for it so I pulled it out and cleaned it up a bit. I bought it when it was only 6 months old back in 1972. Did all the work on it myself and drove it up until about 20 years ago. About once a year I squirt a shot of oil in the cylinder so she wouldn't freeze up. Its been sitting collecting dust and rust all this time so it is time to say goodbye to it. The cash I get from it will go toward that new Supermax .

Cheers,
Bob

Its all a front Doug's going to buy a 1098 thumper.

Steve

I don't even know what that is! Pray do tell.

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Doug

Don't let fear or common sense stop you from trying to build something

I had to build my drum sander. Yes I have to push it through and get it on the other side. I have great dust control. I probably use it more then any tool in the shop. But I built it for less then 500$. Paying a friend to do most if the work because of my health. Has a 3 hp 220 volt motor. Does a great job. Couldn't afford anything else. But you hafta have one don't ya?


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Doug, I am curious. It's probably just an American English versus U.K. English thing but when does a motorbike become a scooter or vice versa? You scooter would be a motorbike or a chopper over here.

I'm Canadian so I can't speak for my US friends, but generally a scooter has a low cc engine, I.e. 50cc. My ride has 1000cc. She ain't no scooter.

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Pretty much. Also a motorcycle you straddle whereas a scooter you sort of sit on with your feet in front of you. If that makes any sense.